[Jenkins-events] Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

Kohsuke Kawaguchi kk at kohsuke.org
Tue Oct 20 20:16:08 UTC 2015

Yes, the downside of not having JUC in Europe has been considered.

One of the problems we had in the past few years with JUC in Europe has
been that we have never managed to create a truly pan-Europe event. When we
do JUC in Paris, only French people came. Did one in Berlin and only
Germans came. This year was in London and neither German nor French came.
So I believe a part of what led into the proposal (and Alyssa can correct
me if I'm wrong) is that the European audience would be served better by
CloudBees-Jenkins Summit part of the proposal, which allows us to run a
sizable local event in multiple locations while controlling the production
overhead (such as CfP, organizing agenda, etc.)

2015-10-20 3:03 GMT-07:00 James Nord <jnord at cloudbees.com>:

> Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based in
> Europe.
> Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for me was
> not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to this.
> As such it was easier to go to a european conference.   I also feel that
> yes you get more people in USA-CA but that this could just a critical mass
> and a direct result of its much easier to go to something local than it is
> to travel 9 hours around the globe.  Do you have stats of where people came
> from in the last even - where they predominantly from the bay area?
> In the London event I met people that where very basic users of Jenkins
> (just starting) and it was easy for them to go to a local conference.
> Would these same users make the same investment to go somewhere accross the
> globe - I personally don't think so - which would be a big shame.
> The JAMs fill a gap - but I'm not sure that this gap is filled yet - or
> that it will be filled by next year  - certainly there is nothing in the UK
> that I know of - and even then we would need something based in the north
> west as well as somewhere around London.
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 4:51:39 AM UTC+2, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote:
>> Putting my CloudBees hat on, I'd like to discuss the following proposed
>> changes to the events in 2016, where we are moving away from JUC into a new
>> model.
>> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016
>> I put this up for the project meeting agenda in 1.5 week, but I hope to
>> get discussions going well before that.
>> --
>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi
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