[Jenkins-events] Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

Luca Milanesio luca.milanesio at gmail.com
Tue Oct 20 22:20:16 UTC 2015


> On 20 Oct 2015, at 23:12, Alyssa <atong at cloudbees.com> wrote:
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> when JUC EU was planned - the goal has always been to find a central location where folks from diff parts of EU can conveniently attend. But it didn't turn out that way - mainly local people attended. And of course one big event in EU is very costly.

Agreed … the London venue should have been *very very* expensive!
One world-wide location in USA would be better, more days and less travelling around the globe.

What about doing a streaming event for people in Europe and Asia to attend remotely?
Possibly organised in cooperation with SkillsMatters in the UK and other similar organisations in the rest of Europe.

Luca.

> The CB-Jenkins Summits will provide the oppty to bring Jenkins to local areas as well as keep overhead down. 
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> On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote:
> Yes, the downside of not having JUC in Europe has been considered.
> 
> One of the problems we had in the past few years with JUC in Europe has been that we have never managed to create a truly pan-Europe event. When we do JUC in Paris, only French people came. Did one in Berlin and only Germans came. This year was in London and neither German nor French came. So I believe a part of what led into the proposal (and Alyssa can correct me if I'm wrong) is that the European audience would be served better by CloudBees-Jenkins Summit part of the proposal, which allows us to run a sizable local event in multiple locations while controlling the production overhead (such as CfP, organizing agenda, etc.)
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> 2015-10-20 3:03 GMT-07:00 James Nord <jn... at cloudbees.com <javascript:>>:
> Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based in Europe.
> 
> Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for me was not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to this.  As such it was easier to go to a european conference.   I also feel that yes you get more people in USA-CA but that this could just a critical mass and a direct result of its much easier to go to something local than it is to travel 9 hours around the globe.  Do you have stats of where people came from in the last even - where they predominantly from the bay area?
> In the London event I met people that where very basic users of Jenkins (just starting) and it was easy for them to go to a local conference.  Would these same users make the same investment to go somewhere accross the globe - I personally don't think so - which would be a big shame.
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> The JAMs fill a gap - but I'm not sure that this gap is filled yet - or that it will be filled by next year  - certainly there is nothing in the UK that I know of - and even then we would need something based in the north west as well as somewhere around London.
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> On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 4:51:39 AM UTC+2, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote:
> Putting my CloudBees hat on, I'd like to discuss the following proposed changes to the events in 2016, where we are moving away from JUC into a new model.
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> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016 <https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016>
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> I put this up for the project meeting agenda in 1.5 week, but I hope to get discussions going well before that.
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