[Jenkins-events] Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

[Alyssa Tong]

+1 for streaming. i'll make the suggestion to the organizing team.

rdgs,
alyssa

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Luca Milanesio <luca.milanesio at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> On 20 Oct 2015, at 23:12, Alyssa <atong at cloudbees.com> wrote:
>
> when JUC EU was planned - the goal has always been to find a central
> location where folks from diff parts of EU can conveniently attend. But it
> didn't turn out that way - mainly local people attended. And of course one
> big event in EU is very costly.
>
>
> Agreed … the London venue should have been *very very* expensive!
> One world-wide location in USA would be better, more days and less
> travelling around the globe.
>
> What about doing a streaming event for people in Europe and Asia to attend
> remotely?
> Possibly organised in cooperation with SkillsMatters in the UK and other
> similar organisations in the rest of Europe.
>
> Luca.
>
> The CB-Jenkins Summits will provide the oppty to bring Jenkins to local
> areas as well as keep overhead down.
>
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the downside of not having JUC in Europe has been considered.
>>
>> One of the problems we had in the past few years with JUC in Europe has
>> been that we have never managed to create a truly pan-Europe event. When we
>> do JUC in Paris, only French people came. Did one in Berlin and only
>> Germans came. This year was in London and neither German nor French came.
>> So I believe a part of what led into the proposal (and Alyssa can correct
>> me if I'm wrong) is that the European audience would be served better by
>> CloudBees-Jenkins Summit part of the proposal, which allows us to run a
>> sizable local event in multiple locations while controlling the production
>> overhead (such as CfP, organizing agenda, etc.)
>>
>>
>> 2015-10-20 3:03 GMT-07:00 James Nord <jn... at cloudbees.com>:
>>
>>> Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based in
>>> Europe.
>>>
>>> Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for me
>>> was not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to
>>> this.  As such it was easier to go to a european conference.   I also feel
>>> that yes you get more people in USA-CA but that this could just a critical
>>> mass and a direct result of its much easier to go to something local than
>>> it is to travel 9 hours around the globe.  Do you have stats of where
>>> people came from in the last even - where they predominantly from the bay
>>> area?
>>> In the London event I met people that where very basic users of Jenkins
>>> (just starting) and it was easy for them to go to a local conference.
>>> Would these same users make the same investment to go somewhere accross the
>>> globe - I personally don't think so - which would be a big shame.
>>>
>>> The JAMs fill a gap - but I'm not sure that this gap is filled yet - or
>>> that it will be filled by next year  - certainly there is nothing in the UK
>>> that I know of - and even then we would need something based in the north
>>> west as well as somewhere around London.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 4:51:39 AM UTC+2, Kohsuke Kawaguchi
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Putting my CloudBees hat on, I'd like to discuss the following proposed
>>>> changes to the events in 2016, where we are moving away from JUC into a new
>>>> model.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016
>>>>
>>>> I put this up for the project meeting agenda in 1.5 week, but I hope to
>>>> get discussions going well before that.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi
>>>>
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