[Jenkins-events] Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

Alyssa atong at cloudbees.com
Tue Oct 20 22:12:41 UTC 2015

when JUC EU was planned - the goal has always been to find a central 
location where folks from diff parts of EU can conveniently attend. But it 
didn't turn out that way - mainly local people attended. And of course one 
big event in EU is very costly. The CB-Jenkins Summits will provide the 
oppty to bring Jenkins to local areas as well as keep overhead down. 

On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote:
> Yes, the downside of not having JUC in Europe has been considered.
> One of the problems we had in the past few years with JUC in Europe has 
> been that we have never managed to create a truly pan-Europe event. When we 
> do JUC in Paris, only French people came. Did one in Berlin and only 
> Germans came. This year was in London and neither German nor French came. 
> So I believe a part of what led into the proposal (and Alyssa can correct 
> me if I'm wrong) is that the European audience would be served better by 
> CloudBees-Jenkins Summit part of the proposal, which allows us to run a 
> sizable local event in multiple locations while controlling the production 
> overhead (such as CfP, organizing agenda, etc.)
> 2015-10-20 3:03 GMT-07:00 James Nord <jn... at cloudbees.com <javascript:>>:
>> Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based in 
>> Europe.
>> Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for me was 
>> not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to this.  
>> As such it was easier to go to a european conference.   I also feel that 
>> yes you get more people in USA-CA but that this could just a critical mass 
>> and a direct result of its much easier to go to something local than it is 
>> to travel 9 hours around the globe.  Do you have stats of where people came 
>> from in the last even - where they predominantly from the bay area?
>> In the London event I met people that where very basic users of Jenkins 
>> (just starting) and it was easy for them to go to a local conference.  
>> Would these same users make the same investment to go somewhere accross the 
>> globe - I personally don't think so - which would be a big shame.
>> The JAMs fill a gap - but I'm not sure that this gap is filled yet - or 
>> that it will be filled by next year  - certainly there is nothing in the UK 
>> that I know of - and even then we would need something based in the north 
>> west as well as somewhere around London.
>> On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 4:51:39 AM UTC+2, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote:
>>> Putting my CloudBees hat on, I'd like to discuss the following proposed 
>>> changes to the events in 2016, where we are moving away from JUC into a new 
>>> model.
>>> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016
>>> I put this up for the project meeting agenda in 1.5 week, but I hope to 
>>> get discussions going well before that.
>>> -- 
>>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi
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