[Jenkins-events] Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016

[Kohsuke Kawaguchi]

2015-10-20 7:45 GMT-07:00 Christopher Orr <chris at orr.me.uk>:

> Yeah, I've had the same problem with trying to justify one-day
> inter-continental conference trips, so being longer would help — though
> note that this proposal would likely only be a two-day conference for
> the majority of potential non-US participants (i.e. they're not likely
> to care about Day 0).
>

OK, so sounds like we should brainstorm on additional activities in Day 0
that makes the event more attractive.

Maybe hands on labs, plugin development class room?


>
> Being adjacent to other events makes sense as well — much like happens
> for a bunch of events before and after FOSDEM.
>

OK. Do we know events in the bay area that we can piggyback on?

On 20/10/15 13:34, Robert Sandell wrote:
> > I had a somewhat different problem, that it was hard to motivate the
> > travel expense across the pond for a mere one day conference.
> > A three day conference would be easier to motivate in my experience;
> > previously working for a larger corporation with large investment in
> > Jenkins at least.
> > The first Jenkins user conference in 2011 was easy to motivate since it
> > was adjacent to Java One. The others were harder.
> >
> > Having one bigger one could perhaps also give some breathing room to
> > other more local/smaller conferences <http://www.code-conf.com/jues15/>
> > on the subject :)
> >
> > /B
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Manuel Jesús Recena Soto
> > <recena at gmail.com <mailto:recena at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hello James,
> >
> >     (reply in line)
> >
> >     2015-10-20 12:03 GMT+02:00 James Nord <jnord at cloudbees.com
> >     <mailto:jnord at cloudbees.com>>:
> >     > Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based
> in Europe.
> >     >
> >     > Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for
> me was
> >     > not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to
> this.  As
> >     > such it was easier to go to a european conference.   I also feel
> that yes
> >     > you get more people in USA-CA but that this could just a critical
> mass and a
> >     > direct result of its much easier to go to something local than it
> is to
> >     > travel 9 hours around the globe.  Do you have stats of where
> people came
> >     > from in the last even - where they predominantly from the bay area?
> >     > In the London event I met people that where very basic users of
> Jenkins
> >     > (just starting) and it was easy for them to go to a local
> conference.  Would
> >     > these same users make the same investment to go somewhere accross
> the globe
> >     > - I personally don't think so - which would be a big shame.
> >     >
> >     > The JAMs fill a gap - but I'm not sure that this gap is filled yet
> - or that
> >     > it will be filled by next year  - certainly there is nothing in
> the UK that
> >     > I know of - and even then we would need something based in the
> north west as
> >     > well as somewhere around London.
> >
> >     I had the opportunity to attend JUG London and was a great
> experience.
> >     It would be a pity don't have this event in Europe.
> >
> >     As you pointed, JAM events can fill this gap.
> >
> >     In Spain, there are two JAM starting (Seville and Barcelona). Maybe
> >     someday, we can organize a bigger event. Another open source
> >     communities do something similar.
> >
> >     Regards,
> >
> >     > On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 4:51:39 AM UTC+2, Kohsuke
> Kawaguchi wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >> Putting my CloudBees hat on, I'd like to discuss the following
> proposed
> >     >> changes to the events in 2016, where we are moving away from JUC
> into a new
> >     >> model.
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >>
> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016
> >     >>
> >     >> I put this up for the project meeting agenda in 1.5 week, but I
> hope to
> >     >> get discussions going well before that.
> >     >>
> >     >> --
> >     >> Kohsuke Kawaguchi
>
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