[Jenkins-events] Proposal: revisiting JUC in 2016
Alyssa
atong at cloudbees.com
Tue Oct 20 22:12:41 UTC 2015
when JUC EU was planned - the goal has always been to find a central
location where folks from diff parts of EU can conveniently attend. But it
didn't turn out that way - mainly local people attended. And of course one
big event in EU is very costly. The CB-Jenkins Summits will provide the
oppty to bring Jenkins to local areas as well as keep overhead down.
On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 1:16:13 PM UTC-7, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote:
>
> Yes, the downside of not having JUC in Europe has been considered.
>
> One of the problems we had in the past few years with JUC in Europe has
> been that we have never managed to create a truly pan-Europe event. When we
> do JUC in Paris, only French people came. Did one in Berlin and only
> Germans came. This year was in London and neither German nor French came.
> So I believe a part of what led into the proposal (and Alyssa can correct
> me if I'm wrong) is that the European audience would be served better by
> CloudBees-Jenkins Summit part of the proposal, which allows us to run a
> sizable local event in multiple locations while controlling the production
> overhead (such as CfP, organizing agenda, etc.)
>
>
> 2015-10-20 3:03 GMT-07:00 James Nord <jn... at cloudbees.com <javascript:>>:
>
>> Taking off my cloudbees hat and putting on my old hat being based in
>> Europe.
>>
>> Getting approval to attend conferences abroad (outside Europe) for me was
>> not always easy - as it involves large travel and time lost due to this.
>> As such it was easier to go to a european conference. I also feel that
>> yes you get more people in USA-CA but that this could just a critical mass
>> and a direct result of its much easier to go to something local than it is
>> to travel 9 hours around the globe. Do you have stats of where people came
>> from in the last even - where they predominantly from the bay area?
>> In the London event I met people that where very basic users of Jenkins
>> (just starting) and it was easy for them to go to a local conference.
>> Would these same users make the same investment to go somewhere accross the
>> globe - I personally don't think so - which would be a big shame.
>>
>> The JAMs fill a gap - but I'm not sure that this gap is filled yet - or
>> that it will be filled by next year - certainly there is nothing in the UK
>> that I know of - and even then we would need something based in the north
>> west as well as somewhere around London.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 20, 2015 at 4:51:39 AM UTC+2, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote:
>>>
>>> Putting my CloudBees hat on, I'd like to discuss the following proposed
>>> changes to the events in 2016, where we are moving away from JUC into a new
>>> model.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Proposal+-+Revisiting+JUC+in+2016
>>>
>>> I put this up for the project meeting agenda in 1.5 week, but I hope to
>>> get discussions going well before that.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi
>>>
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